Flames Sign Derek Smith

Kent Wilson
July 13 2011 02:44PM

 

 

The Fan960 via twitter reported today that the Calgary Flames have inked 27-year old defender Derek Smith, formerly of the Ottawa Senators organization. Smith appeared in nine games for the Sens last year, garnering one assist. The deal is reportedly two-way, with an NHL salary of $700k.

I have to say I am somewhat confused by the addition. Smith joins a depth chart absolutely bursting with similar 'tweener type players. After obvious NHLers like Giordano, Bouwmeester, Sarich and Babchuk, the Flames now boast Chris Butler, Brett Carson, Brendan Mikkelson (RFA), TJ Brodie, Clay Wilson, John Negrin, Chris Breen, Joe Piskula, Jordan Henry and now Smith. That is no less than 10 (!!) defenders signed to two-way deals who might be, at best, 5th-7th defenders in the NHL at this point in their careers (most at the 7th or below end of the scale). I understand the Abbotsford Heat could use some veteran depth, but I'm not sure why all of these guys warrant NHL contracts.

The signing is mostly an inconsequential one, of course, so my confusion isn't anything beyond minor puzzlement. It's just...where are they going to put all these defensemen?

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#1 JF
July 13 2011, 03:39PM
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Point of order...

Chris Butler & Brett Carson have 1-way deals (+Wilson on the backend of his two year deal no?) not two-way. Also I think it's hardly fair to put Butler into a tweener catagory, he's NHL talent (maybe not elite talent but I wouldn't call him an AHL guy).

I'm just wondering who the #7/ECHL guy is going to be in Abbotsford? Henry would be my guess.

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#2 Scoring_guru
July 13 2011, 03:57PM
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Ah the good old negativity on Flames Nation. Nothing is ever good enough or no one is patient enough to see what is going to happen. The start of the season is 2 1/2 months away. Let's see what happens. Everyone thinks they would do a better job than Jay.

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#3 Flipnip
July 13 2011, 09:30PM
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Has anyone actually seen this guy play? His AHL numbers seem good but we all know that doesn't necessarily translate to NHL level ability (see Kotalik). This seems like an odd signing if they really didn't see anything in this guy. I wonder if this is a suggestion from John Weisbrod. Since Derek played with the Binghampton Senators last year, our new asst GM might have had some insight into Smith.

Here's hoping.

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#4 Olsy
July 13 2011, 02:50PM
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I am starting to wonder if more changes are'nt coming to the back end....

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#5 Nolan Moore
July 13 2011, 02:58PM
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I think this is a GM that realizes he missed out and needs to improve his back end but nothing is out there so lets pick the scraps. Looking more and more like Feasters tenure as GM will be the shortest of all Flames GMs.

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#6 Michael
July 13 2011, 03:00PM
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Guess every GM has a weakness for a certain type of player. Sutter loved signing the big gritty bottom six forward, Feaster seems to like accumulating bottom pair d men.

Guess we will have some competition for the bottom pair, but 10 bottom pair guys on two way deals seems excessive.. (2 -3 on the big club, 7 on the farm?). Maybe the guy works out, but it seems like a bit of a wasted contract....

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#7 Vintage Flame
July 13 2011, 03:00PM
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I find this confusing as well Kent. Not sure if they are going to try and package like 3 of these guys for 1 more suitable d-man or something, but this a strange signing??? o_0

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#8 nsmig
July 13 2011, 03:04PM
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Hey Kent couple of questions for you

1. Is there a correlation between length of shift and scoring chance numbers? My thought is that maybe the Flames can win with all of these players if they keep shifts really quick and keep the game simple. I think last year the Flames got in big trouble when players were out for too long and too tired to make the correct plays. I think this is Jay Bow's biggest detriment. This is most important with D men, but I would like to see this with the forwards

2. I would also be interested in seeing the comparison between this year’s crop of D men vs. the 04 run when they didn't have a flashy group of D men. Remember Regher was still pretty new then and not the shut down beast.

Let me know what you think.

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#9 Graham
July 13 2011, 03:06PM
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Huh?

Maybe the thought is, sign as many "mobile D men that can compete for a spot in our top-7" as possible... and throw the best performer from camp into the #4 slot. Let's hope not, but that's what it feels like.

It makes sense that the team needs established AHL defenders to play in Abbotsford, but you'd think there would be more AHL-only contracts handed out to these players. Feaster's quote on the Flames website makes it sound as though there were a number of teams calling for Smith on July 1, and the Flames "won" his services. They must be pretty high on his upside to play with the big club this year, because you don't get into bidding wars to snag AHL depth defenders and sign them to one year deals.

Good AHL offensive totals from Smith, but other than that: I don't get it

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#10 rain dogs
July 13 2011, 03:09PM
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I think this is that hugely successful strategy called:

"Swing as hard as you can, every single pitch, and aim for the fences. You're bound to get lucky with one."

Even IF Sarich were traded... are we going to play with a top pairing, incoming trade guy and 5 AHL defenders?

Scary, Feaster. Scary

All this posts about top defenses in the league is depressing me. We at least were involved in the conversation a couple years back.

Today? Opposite end of the spectrum.

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#11 KingJafi
July 13 2011, 03:13PM
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I just sent The Feast a video of myself skating around on a frozen pond drunk off my ass. I think I have a shot at getting a two way or at least an invite to training camp. Dude has an eye for talent.

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#12 Scott
July 13 2011, 03:27PM
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My guess this is Feaster's way of making a point. Since they didn't sign Richards or make any big (good) trades, Feaster can say to the fan base, " look at how young we are now, I signed 20 players under the age of 30, and going into training camp they could all compete for a spot!" Either that or he mistakenly thought this guy was a forward.

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#13 ALL THE WAY IN
July 13 2011, 03:41PM
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This gets notched up as a Feaster fetish signing. I guess he's creating a competitive atmosphere and really make these virtually unkown defensemen raise their game to be noticed. Whatever, I guess we have to wait to and see what Feaster's plan is as it unfolds.

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#14 Sincity1976
July 13 2011, 03:42PM
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He is treating this like a draft. He is acquiring as many picks as he can with the hope that one graduates to a top 4 D. He is also getting depth for the AHL.

Not a sure fire way of doing business. But given what Sutter left him its better then doing nothing I guess.

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#15 PrairieStew
July 13 2011, 03:59PM
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My guess is that Mickelson is not signing and is going to move on, perhaps Europe. Smith is another lefty, still short of right handers throughout.

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#16 the-wolf
July 13 2011, 04:00PM
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Throw it against the wall and see what sticks is the right sentiment around here alright. Hope that someone steps out of nowhere and takes a quantum leap forward so that you can brag about your genius as a GM in signing him.

Getting tired of Feaster's lawyers spin.

I thought it amusing how Burke basically said they could've had Richards too. Hmmmmm......

Well, we need someone to replace Phaneuf, Regehr, Aulie, Erixon.

Add those 4 guys to Gio and Bouw and how awesome would we be?

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#18 the-wolf
July 13 2011, 04:03PM
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Scoring_guru wrote:

Ah the good old negativity on Flames Nation. Nothing is ever good enough or no one is patient enough to see what is going to happen. The start of the season is 2 1/2 months away. Let's see what happens. Everyone thinks they would do a better job than Jay.

I don't think, I know.

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#19 iginlafire
July 13 2011, 04:06PM
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Feasted must think improving Abbottsford's roster is a real priority. Move from an AHL team that is stocked almost entirely with kids to one that a mix of AHL vets, late-bloomers, older guys still trying to crack the bigs, and kids. The type of team that can contend for a division title and perhaps make a playoff run, giving those with the best chance at becoming full time NHLers a healthy dose of playoff experience. That's what this signing, and other recent ones like it, says to me.

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#20 KingJafi
July 13 2011, 04:11PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

I find this confusing as well Kent. Not sure if they are going to try and package like 3 of these guys for 1 more suitable d-man or something, but this a strange signing??? o_0

Unfortunately you don't package a bunch of guys the other team could have signed individually as well a few weeks ago. That's wishful thinking. The Feast is just not qualified to do this job. It's ok though...we'll all suffer with him through all of this...

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#21 Tach
July 13 2011, 04:13PM
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the-wolf wrote:

Throw it against the wall and see what sticks is the right sentiment around here alright. Hope that someone steps out of nowhere and takes a quantum leap forward so that you can brag about your genius as a GM in signing him.

Getting tired of Feaster's lawyers spin.

I thought it amusing how Burke basically said they could've had Richards too. Hmmmmm......

Well, we need someone to replace Phaneuf, Regehr, Aulie, Erixon.

Add those 4 guys to Gio and Bouw and how awesome would we be?

Well, assuming we also had to hold onto Sarich as the 7th defenseman, we would have another ~$9 million in cap hit to deal with. And a rookie or 2nd year man (or possibly both) on your third pair.

Which two forwards would you throw overboard to keep those guys? We would essentially need to replace Iginla and Langkow with replacement level players as they are the only two cap hits that come close.

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#22 Graham
July 13 2011, 04:17PM
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If this was the type of player Feaster was looking for (mobile, offensive-minded D man) in this age bracket, I do wonder why he wouldn't opt for a guy like Anton Stralman. Stralman is almost the same age, plays a similar style, but has more NHL experience. If Feaster is actually looking for a player of this caliber to "legitimately compete for a spot in our top-7" then I think Stralman would have been a more suitable option. Anyone with me on this?

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#23 ALL THE WAY IN
July 13 2011, 04:24PM
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iginlafire wrote:

Feasted must think improving Abbottsford's roster is a real priority. Move from an AHL team that is stocked almost entirely with kids to one that a mix of AHL vets, late-bloomers, older guys still trying to crack the bigs, and kids. The type of team that can contend for a division title and perhaps make a playoff run, giving those with the best chance at becoming full time NHLers a healthy dose of playoff experience. That's what this signing, and other recent ones like it, says to me.

I really think that Jay is trying to create a winning atmosphere for our prospects to develope in, over in Abbotsford. This guy has huge numbers in the AHL for a Dman and can be a NHL call up. At second glance, I don't mind this signing.

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#24 druds
July 13 2011, 04:26PM
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KingJafi wrote:

I just sent The Feast a video of myself skating around on a frozen pond drunk off my ass. I think I have a shot at getting a two way or at least an invite to training camp. Dude has an eye for talent.

Man I fell off my chair...now that was funny

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#26 Luc
July 13 2011, 04:32PM
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Here is a fresh look to this puzzling signing. Perhaps feasted is just preparing for the year. For example.... at the trade deadline if there is a deal for jay Bo and we need to fill spots we have a few who "will do" until we can sin sone real players when we get space next summer. Who knows why he is stock piling so many defense. But from my camp it's better to throw in a 27 with some experience rather then over whelming a young player. See bogosian. Point is JUST MAYBE he ia just trying to think of the depth plus the what if we do manage to off load some d contracts.

Yea these signings are curious to say the least however I choose to beleice or hope that this ia part of a bigger plan. IMO so should you rather then shi**ing on everything.

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#27 Greg
July 13 2011, 04:34PM
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@Graham

Stralman also would gave been at least 3 times the cap hit, and still only suited to the bottom pair anyway.

I just looked at his AHL stats and he looks pretty good, two consecutive seasons of 50+ points. Seems like a low risk, moderate reward move to me, assuming there's no NTC! :)

Kinda scary that all these tweeners are choosing to sign with the flames though. Says a lot about our defence that they all think this is their best shot at making the NHL.

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#29 Luc
July 13 2011, 04:44PM
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Exactly. Yea the see who sticks method isn't exactly the best however why option does he really have??

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#30 everton fc
July 13 2011, 04:47PM
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Smith is a minor-leaguer. He'll see little time up here.

But it does make you wonder, are we planning on moving Sarich... Or perhaps Bouwmeester... in a package with, say, Hagman... Stajan... to a team below the cap floor...

Wouldn't be a bad move... Would it?

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#31 Michael
July 13 2011, 04:49PM
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I would rather see a few blue chip prospects than boatloads of marginal ones...

Yes the start of the season is a long way off, but Feaster hasn't really done anything to ease my doubts about his promotion to GM...

We have given up future draft picks to move salaries, signed 3 more players to NMC, lost Erixson, tried to sign Smyth at a cap hit of $6.2 million, tried to sign Richards for $65 million over 9 years... you want to talk about cap problems down the road, try facing a $7+ million cap hit in the 7/8/9th year of the contract for a guy who retired... signed several marginal free agents, failed to get a decent return for Regehr

Maybe Feaster can pull a rabbit out of the hat, but it is looking like a long mediocre season.

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#33 the-wolf
July 13 2011, 05:21PM
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Tach wrote:

Well, assuming we also had to hold onto Sarich as the 7th defenseman, we would have another ~$9 million in cap hit to deal with. And a rookie or 2nd year man (or possibly both) on your third pair.

Which two forwards would you throw overboard to keep those guys? We would essentially need to replace Iginla and Langkow with replacement level players as they are the only two cap hits that come close.

Meant more as a general observation re: the amount of talent on the blueline we've jettisoned than a cap argument.

Once an organizational strength and now not so much.

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#34 the-wolf
July 13 2011, 05:24PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Heh. Could be. Prepping for a sell-off? We'll see I guess.

It's going to be interesting to see if any of these guys pokes his head above the crowd here as well.

I think it's part of Feaster's idea behind creating a competitve atmosphere that he talked about. Hard to compete when you have a 1-way and the guy beside you a 2-way.

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#35 SmellOfVictory
July 13 2011, 05:30PM
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nsmig wrote:

Hey Kent couple of questions for you

1. Is there a correlation between length of shift and scoring chance numbers? My thought is that maybe the Flames can win with all of these players if they keep shifts really quick and keep the game simple. I think last year the Flames got in big trouble when players were out for too long and too tired to make the correct plays. I think this is Jay Bow's biggest detriment. This is most important with D men, but I would like to see this with the forwards

2. I would also be interested in seeing the comparison between this year’s crop of D men vs. the 04 run when they didn't have a flashy group of D men. Remember Regher was still pretty new then and not the shut down beast.

Let me know what you think.

Only issue with #1 is that you're limited to a max of 8 defencemen, and you'd be splitting all of the soft icetime between most of these guys, given their level of ability. It doesn't really benefit JBo or Gio.

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#36 Sincity1976
July 13 2011, 05:36PM
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Perhaps Brodie or another defensive prospect is on the way out? Makes more sense then him shipping out a guy like Bouwmeester and filling him with a number 7 plug.

Though none of this makes sense. We are up to 14 NHL contracts on D. Assuming Mikkelson doesn't bolt to Europe (though if he wasn't, he may now given the competition).

If I was Brodie or another good prospect I would be concerned. Its like having aces in a poker game only you find all 7-players at the table called your all in bet.

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#39 Kevin R
July 13 2011, 06:06PM
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Sincity1976 wrote:

Perhaps Brodie or another defensive prospect is on the way out? Makes more sense then him shipping out a guy like Bouwmeester and filling him with a number 7 plug.

Though none of this makes sense. We are up to 14 NHL contracts on D. Assuming Mikkelson doesn't bolt to Europe (though if he wasn't, he may now given the competition).

If I was Brodie or another good prospect I would be concerned. Its like having aces in a poker game only you find all 7-players at the table called your all in bet.

Ahh! A fellow poker player! Love it. Hard to spin this one. It could mean that Flames are looking at 2-3 low NHL experienced Dmen on the big team this year so dont expect any NHL calibre d men being signed (ie. Hannan or McCabe). It also could mean another one of our experienced dmen are not long for the club, ie JBO &/or Sarich, Gio is the only untouchable & Babchuk we just signed with a NMC. I will be so ticked if we use JBO to dump Hagmans contract for 2nd level prospects. JBO is paid & supposed to be one of marquee players for God's sake. We got him now & at least he can play 28 minutes. I will respect Feaster more if he just did nothing from here on & ride this year out than make stupid salary dump trades like Regehr. I think everyone should just light a candle & pray. :)

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#40 Kypreos
July 13 2011, 06:22PM
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Relax everyone........

He can play all year in the minors and will never be paid a dime of his NHL salary. If he comes up he gets paid his NHL dollars.

Bring him in what have you got loose?? Veteran leadership may help yougsters in Abbotsford.

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#41 negrilcowboy
July 13 2011, 06:51PM
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former flyer winger derek smith who toiled with tocchett and rutter would have been bigger news, than the signing of this plug. yet more spin doctoring from feastmeister.

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#42 thymebalm
July 13 2011, 07:41PM
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I like the signing. one year, 2-way, low cap, no risk. He finished 4th in points for AHL defenders, even with a call-up stint to the NHL. The signing might not address what fans perceive to be the Flames problems (ie: #1C or top-4D), but it's still a good move.

Feaster added 2 of the top-10 AHL defenders in points during this offseason, and yet he gets no props. Just wait until you see what a difference it will make for all our prospects to play on a winning AHL team. I don't remember our farm team ever looking so good.

Brodie - Wilson Smith - Breen Negrin - Piskula xHenry

Feaster seems to believe in the talent that the Flames have around them. He's just trying to create a positive winning environment, from the farm up.

One of those top-5 is bound to blossom into a true top-4 NHL defender. I think Smith, Wilson, Brodie, and Negrin all have the ability to play full time in the NHL, which they've all briefly experienced already.

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#43 Kevin R
July 13 2011, 08:07PM
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Kypreos wrote:

Relax everyone........

He can play all year in the minors and will never be paid a dime of his NHL salary. If he comes up he gets paid his NHL dollars.

Bring him in what have you got loose?? Veteran leadership may help yougsters in Abbotsford.

Well thats not exactly true, I do believe the maximum # of 1 way & 2 way NHL contracts a team is allowed is 50. If I recall last summer we were at the max & therefore it limits your ability to make lets say a blockbuster trade. Partly the reason Oilers dumped Cogliano for basically nothing (2nd rounder) On one way they feel it was as good of a return they could get but they are also up close to their 50 contracts & they have lots of young good prospects that want a true shot to make the club & the Oilers will be only able to sign them to AHL contracts. Not good for morale on the farm. Hence, it impacts the potential return on future deals if you ride the max contracts all the time.

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#44 Sincity1976
July 13 2011, 08:25PM
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@Kevin R

That is part of what makes this so odd. The Flames are now at 46-contracts (45 if Mikkelson isn't signed).

Before next years draft they need to extend offers to Reinhert, Ferland, Leach, and Holland (assuming we choose to sign them). That gives us very little flexibility in bringing on any contracts via trade or free agency.

This deal gives the Heat a pretty potent D-Core. Wilson, Smith, Brodie, Negrin, and Henry are a very offensive group. They also have Breen and Piskula for size and a stay at home presence. But every single one of them have an NHL contract. Only 3 of them are EL contracts. There isn't an AHL contract in the bunch. Seems like a bit of an overuse of our NHL contracts to keep the Heat competitive. Though I guess maybe with a lack of prospects Feaster has limited options.

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#46 Ken V.
July 13 2011, 09:01PM
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... this is a much, much better signing than Henry, don't see that guy ever making the NHL. This is interesting to say the least but literally could have been that he decided to come here and we had already sent an offer and he accepted it. This is the way it should be, but what now with these desperation signings? I guess keep them in the AHL and hopefully our true prospects don't get discouraged and move on. Still won't find a top 4 out of any of these guys so something must be happening, if not we're screwed.

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#47 John Deere Green
July 13 2011, 10:02PM
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The Heat are going to be a good club this year. Looks like a real good defence down there. The Flames? Not so much.

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#48 marcus
July 14 2011, 01:15AM
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Guys, really, are we seriously that befuddled with the state of the union?

This is a piece of the puzzle that nobody is assembling into a finished product due to the drop off after Bouw and Gio and I get that. But Kent, you have to see beyond the numbers bro. This is It's so multifaceted, so articulated, that its impossible to forecast what these players are going to do when thrusted into such an intensely competitive environment. The point is, there is so much rationality at play here that the braintrust is choosing to create internal competition by inducing hunger by dangling the carrot.

1) Acts of God: This I classify as late bloomers that NOBODY forecasted to have the ceiling they did. These are the Giordanos & Beiksas of the world. Is there one in this group of Flames prospects? Only time will tell. The strategy being applied shows internal fortitude to drum up the list of targets, acquire them, challenge them to be up to the task and believe that one or more prove you right. That's something great organizations are made of. Balls backed by purposeful and deliberate planning & consistency.

2) NW Division. Regardless of the lack of productivity being pushed out by anyone but the Canucks, this is traditionally a bruising Division especially in Alberta. The Defensive focus with management is showing me that Calgary is not diverting from one of it's cornerstones. The lineage of great defense runs deep in this organization and the current brain-trust are deliberately trying to do what it has always done well. Develop defensive talent. Think about it. From 9th rounders like Suter all the way up to Regher & Giordano. Defensive development is ingrained in this organization and is a fundamental strength. They are most definitely taking defensive development very seriously right now. Calgary has never been an easy stop in the NW regardless of what the score card has indicated.

3) After the Regher trade, its clear that they are not resting on their laurels and assuming that their existing make-up is going to cut it.

4 )2012 defensive free agents: One of the reasons why Hannan is still available is because GM's that have a need are looking to 2012. If I were a GM I would trade for an upcoming UFA that has an expressed interest to come here similar to how Darryl swindled the league by acquiring Bouwmeester for Leopold's rights. Who's on that list? Suter, Kronwall, Beauchemin, Liles, Wideman, C.White, Rome (maybe Weber). The list is deep.

5) Collaboration: Would it be a stretch to think that Feastie's gang has reached a consensus that some of our prospects are on the brink and need an added push? That the semi-pro-scouts have jovially stepped forward with a list of worthy AHL men to create intense competition that will allow the cream to rise to the top? Once the cream rises, those knocking on the door will plausibly keep the victorious one(s) on their toes. Now that its clear that Pelech is a bust, I am thoroughly pleased that we are restocking as opposed to waiting for future drafts to hope for something.

6) Leach & Ramage. Scouts are high on these guys as are management. Their range in their underage years & at prospects camp as been established. While their ceiling enduces copious amounts of uncontrollable Saliva, In the meantime, why sit tight? Get moving!!

7) Erixon - They have no interest in pissing around after this. They have ground to make up with this loss and as Darryl proved with Gio and Breen, there is potential to find defensive talent with upside and they are making every effort to make it happen again. Anyone with a brain knows its easier to train a defenseman to defend than it is to train a forward how to score which makes for all the more reason to stock up when you are low.

8) No less than 10 (!!!) defenders fighting for 6&7 spots? - That's great considering the contracts and terms for AHLers! Who ever falls off the cliff get's waived, traded, demoted, pushed off the plank it doesn't matter at this point. Let the cream rise!

9) B.Sutter - Technician with youth - His JR record speaks for itself. Not since Guy Boucher has ANYONE had the pedigree that Brent has as a junior coach earning his way up the ranks to the NHL. It's really too bad that his last name associates him with his older brother's demise as they have taken diverse different roads to the coaching ranks of the NHL. If I were forced to correlate the two, I would submit that they are both elite coaches. Period. Thus Brent is probably the most qualified man available to develop these boys.

10) Many are fixated with Feaster being the catalyst and to a large extent this is true (as is any manager charged with growing an organization). Moreover there is a deep breadth of sound hockey knowledge collaborating on this team from Goulet, to Weisbrod, to B.Sutter & Hartsburg. Feaster has made no bones about it. You can analyze Feaster to death but the truth is these people know a heck of alot more than all of us combined and they are carrying out a plan that Feaster founded, but you can rest assured, like any great developer in real-estate, they enlist greater architects, engineers, project managers & constructors to carry out the vision. To a large extent, this is exactly what the Flames organization needed. Ken King can take credit for the collaborative environment that exists in the organization today. You have to believe this trickles down to the players and effectively cannibalizes the prospect pool. What is a simple definition of cannibalization apart from eating human flesh? Risking something of merit in order to gain in other areas to succeed. Example Negrin, we were/are all so high on him because there was really nobody else to hope for other than Pelech Pelech was pushed out and the notice has hit Negrin hard. We love your shine and lustre but we are prepared to risk you in order to mine for diamonds. Now it's time to sink or swim. That goes for everyone. Learn to love it and you just might end up being a success.

I'm not saying that they are correct in all of their personnel decision making because I have no crystal ball, but you can rest assured that there are people working incredibly hard in this organization backed by sound fundamental knowledge and aptitude.

Aside from the mistakes, There was alot of excitement during the Darryl Sutter regime due to the backing of ownership and management. Some have recently said that ownership is cheap and would be wise to retract at this point. After the Brad Richards attempt the hockey world knows Calgary is beating the war drum deliberately. You can rest assured that the prospects will be charged by this environment.

The Calgary flames are proving in a short period of time that they have a concise approach to development right now, and after a short period of time, its clear that this organization is on the right track.

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#49 marcus
July 14 2011, 01:33AM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Feaster added 2 of the top-10 AHL defenders in points during this offseason, and yet he gets no props. Just wait until you see what a difference it will make for all our prospects to play on a winning AHL team. I don't remember our farm team ever looking so good.

The Heat should certainly be more interesting to watch next season, that's for sure.

Perhaps my only fear of all these mid-20 year old defenders getting signed is Brodie getting lost in the mix. I don't think that will happen, but there might be some risk given his age.

No better way to describe your fear than a deliberate attempt at Cannibalization: When Coca Cola launched Diet Coke, they sacrificed coke sales in order to get the Diet Cola brand going. Coca Cola is still around, but so is diet coke and they are both thriving. The same goes for Brodie, he may be pushed back to top line minutes in the AHL as any former allstar would deserve, but he wouldn't be pushed further than that. Others may rise to the top and now you've got two or three NHLers when you conceivably only had one. This strategy applied over and over could breed some great results over the long term.

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#50 Captain Ron
July 14 2011, 02:19AM
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@Marcus

Absolutly great comments that are obviously well thought out. I am in complete agreement with you and subscribe to the direction that the organization appears to be going in. There is a big picture here that will become much more clear as time moves on.

A high five to you for your glass half full approach.

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